tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post88316984194992558..comments2024-02-24T00:41:37.836-08:00Comments on The Buddha Diaries: Belief and DisbeliefPeter Clothierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11525159413387378704noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-41235396676161518832007-09-08T09:27:00.000-07:002007-09-08T09:27:00.000-07:00Sorry to repeat some of what was already said. I f...Sorry to repeat some of what was already said. I forgot to read the thread before commenting. D'oh!!They call him James Urehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05171585857015973860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-53424815086340899472007-09-08T09:25:00.000-07:002007-09-08T09:25:00.000-07:00I am reminded of the sometimes militant science/At...I am reminded of the sometimes militant science/Atheist crowd. While I am very much a man of science and do agree with much that Atheists have to say, I would also say that they adhere to their ideas like a religion. <BR/><BR/>A belief in no beliefs is still a belief of sorts. :)They call him James Urehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05171585857015973860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-88905634130106666732007-09-06T00:45:00.000-07:002007-09-06T00:45:00.000-07:00I've been investigating this razor's edge concept....I've been investigating this razor's edge concept. This is the stuff of dramatic writing, Maugham's. and as a concept, seems to me to be on the extreme side of describing reality. Accepting the travels of Larry Darrell at face value, seems juvenile to me. Views based on pop novels?<BR/><BR/>One needs to find the root source of being in accord with opposites in reality, rather than adopting and parroting intellectualized fictions.<BR/>Extreme views are so in vogue. Forget about it. What's skillful or unskillful about having integrity?<BR/>As Camus said, "With integrity, there is no need for rules." All this stuff being parroted seems to stem from what T.S. Eliot said, "humankind cannot bear much reality."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-77650477986461255262007-09-04T11:22:00.000-07:002007-09-04T11:22:00.000-07:00Thanks, all, for deepening my "insight"! See you ...Thanks, all, for deepening my "insight"! See you next week. Blessings, PeterPeter Clothierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11525159413387378704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-11266563315339728272007-09-03T20:19:00.000-07:002007-09-03T20:19:00.000-07:00I don't think it's a razor's edge at all. It's ver...I don't think it's a razor's edge at all. It's very easy to understand and do. Also, delusion is part of reality, not separate from it. Delusion is useful, something one should have much experience with, not be against. Using wisdom gained through the manipulations of all things is better than dropping anything.<BR/><BR/>Letting fall into place, is better than dropping.<BR/><BR/>The practice should be easy, not hard, finding what is lucid and being in accord with it is as natural as falling off a log.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-10243505523153100722007-09-03T19:55:00.000-07:002007-09-03T19:55:00.000-07:00"I don't know if there is a word that describes a ..."I don't know if there is a word that describes a state that precedes this duality."<BR/><BR/>The best term for it is The Unknowable (tao), only known as a hidden force behind opposiing tendencies, which gives birth to everything as part of one thing, our perceivable world.<BR/><BR/>To be in accord with it, is to ride with Peter's insight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-84898991038692957372007-09-03T19:45:00.000-07:002007-09-03T19:45:00.000-07:00There is no duality in Peter's insight, as they ar...There is no duality in Peter's insight, as they are two parts of the same thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-16331479292617158192007-09-03T19:44:00.000-07:002007-09-03T19:44:00.000-07:00Excellent P. Your insight is much better than the ...Excellent P. Your insight is much better than the conundrum of emptiness. Equilibrium is the essence of reality, not emptiness. I must go find a definition of form from The Changes. Ah yes, there is one in Grace, 22, "By contemplating the existing forms we come to understand time and its changing demands. Through contemplation of the forms existing in human society it becomes possible to shape the world."<BR/><BR/>"Disbelief is in itself a form of belief."<BR/>Amen. each always threatening to become the other. This tendency accounts for the unreasonable holding to one or the other by millions of people who do not understand your insight.<BR/><BR/>"—a belief that the belief of others is somehow wrong-headed or ignorant."<BR/>When what actually is wrong, is their blind adherence to and unbalanced fervor for one or the other.<BR/><BR/>"I hold to my skepticism (am I “attached” to it?"<BR/>Hold to it P, for the sage makes discriminations, and thereby sets the world, and his world, in order. (and keeps one from being a "pie in the sky" dufus!). You must be allowed to act or not act on that acute sense of discrimination in combination with the wisdom gained in the other spheres.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-17546599276468294712007-09-03T09:51:00.000-07:002007-09-03T09:51:00.000-07:00Imagine growing up without belief, as I did. These...Imagine growing up without belief, as I did. These distinctions don't make as much sense, the duality of belief and disbelief, to me. I don't know if there is a word that describes a state that precedes this duality.robin andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13390482190562312928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-28648223814394528352007-09-03T05:33:00.000-07:002007-09-03T05:33:00.000-07:00"Disbelief is in itself a form of belief—a belief ..."Disbelief is in itself a form of belief—a belief that the belief of others is somehow wrong-headed or ignorant." It is so very true.Anukritihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04935885646798938696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3965076219235086304.post-23136548900519362812007-09-02T18:01:00.000-07:002007-09-02T18:01:00.000-07:00Good point. But, its a real razor's edge isn't it...Good point. But, its a real razor's edge isn't it. . . we need to see the distinctions between reality and delusion, between skillfulness and unskillfulness. But, at the same time drop the attachments to them as well, good subject for some hard practice!Gregorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16134656071539163367noreply@blogger.com